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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Mar 1 @ 1:37 PM ET
Todd Cordell: On the Jason Zucker trade that almost was
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
According to Russo the Hurricanes were also in on Zucker, but it does sound like they preferred Calgary's offer.

Or maybe Fenton was just hesitant to deal with the Canes again after what happened last time.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Mar 1 @ 2:20 PM ET
Could have been a nice addition to the core moving forward. Oh well. Happy to keep the pick. Our scouting staff is A+.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Mar 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
Still would like to know why it fell through.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
Damn. Zucker is a legit top 6 scorer, basically what you hoped Neal would be.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
Still would like to know why it fell through.
- TandA4Flames


Canes tried to trade Lindholm for Zucker before the draft last year and the Wild signed him instead.

They don't seem to want to give him up for anything.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Mar 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
Our scouting staff is A+
- fry


Since when? They're average at best. It'll be neat though when the entire Slovakian national team is in the Flames organization.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:01 PM ET
Since when? They're average at best. It'll be neat though when the entire Slovakian national team is in the Flames organization.
- Hunkulese

What the hell are you talking about?
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:03 PM ET
i thought Tre didn't want to trade from his roster? Unless Frolik was being a distraction with his agents comments. I would've liked having Zucker but i do like Frolik's 2-way play for the playoffs.
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:08 PM ET
Since when? They're average at best. It'll be neat though when the entire Slovakian national team is in the Flames organization.
- Hunkulese

What the hell are you talking about?
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames

Joined: 05.10.2010

Quote wouldn't work, but I second that. What the hell are you talking about Hunkulese aka the epitome of negativity.

Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:22 PM ET
Since when? They're average at best. It'll be neat though when the entire Slovakian national team is in the Flames organization.
- Hunkulese

Holy fck I think you need to explain yourself. What is it, the crappy 2nd round picks of Andersson who everybody wants from the Flames or Kyllington, or yeah that crappy 6th round pick of Mangi. Valamaki is just garbage too eh? Im hearing this Pettersen kid that was another mid rounder turning heads.

rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:24 PM ET
Our scouting staff is A+
- fry


Since when? They're average at best. It'll be neat though when the entire Slovakian national team is in the Flames organization.


Hard to say average when you are dressing homegrown picks from the 2nd or later rounds like:

Andersson - 2nd round
Kylington - 2nd round
Mangiapane - 6th round
Gaudreau - 4th round
Brodie - 4th round
Gio - undrafted
itwasin
Location: It Was In - June 5 2004, AB
Joined: 09.28.2013

Mar 1 @ 4:32 PM ET
Since when? They're average at best. It'll be neat though when the entire Slovakian national team is in the Flames organization.
- Hunkulese


???
According to ESPN there are no Slovakians on the Flames. No Slovenians either.
Calgary's roster does include 2 Czechs (Frolik and Rittich)
Flames are more likely to be billeting the Swedish team as Calgary has 6 already.

http://www.espn.com/nhl/t..._/name/cgy/calgary-flames
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:46 PM ET
???
According to ESPN there are no Slovakians on the Flames. No Slovenians either.
Calgary's roster does include 2 Czechs (Frolik and Rittich)
Flames are more likely to be billeting the Swedish team as Calgary has 6 already.

http://www.espn.com/nhl/t..._/name/cgy/calgary-flames

- itwasin


Well, there are a few, basically the last 2 drafts we've been raiding Slovakia in the later rounds...

Martin Pospisil - Slovakia
Milos Roman - Slovakia
Adam Ruzicka - Slovakia

TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Mar 1 @ 5:01 PM ET
@rmull
sure but is he forgetting that the core of our team was built through the draft? Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, Backlund, Janko, Brodie, we acquired guys like Lindholm and Hannifin using our draft picks (Ferland and Fox), Anderssonn, Kylington, Valimaki, Giordano was an undrafted find.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Mar 1 @ 5:40 PM ET
Still would like to know why it fell through.
- TandA4Flames

Can’t remember who said it but someone said that is got declined as it was past 1pm MST when league office received it. Also there was a rumour that Zucks himself thought he was going to Calgary.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Mar 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
So who was late on the submission?
Helios
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.11.2016

Mar 1 @ 6:23 PM ET
Hard to say average when you are dressing homegrown picks from the 2nd or later rounds like:

Andersson - 2nd round
Kylington - 2nd round
Mangiapane - 6th round
Gaudreau - 4th round
Brodie - 4th round
Gio - undrafted

- rmull905


Hunk never has any clue what he's talking about. Figured everyone knew that by now.
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Mar 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
Can’t remember who said it but someone said that is got declined as it was past 1pm MST when league office received it. Also there was a rumour that Zucks himself thought he was going to Calgary.
- Clyde334


It was Dreger on TSN that talked about apparently BT was white hot as he said, because usually the league has leniency on the submissions for trades because of the backlog. I bet under the same circumstances for any other team things would be different.

How are you monkey man?
Helios
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.11.2016

Mar 1 @ 6:51 PM ET
Hard to say average when you are dressing homegrown picks from the 2nd or later rounds like:

Andersson - 2nd round
Kylington - 2nd round
Mangiapane - 6th round
Gaudreau - 4th round
Brodie - 4th round
Gio - undrafted

- rmull905


Hunk never has any clue what he's talking about. Figured everyone knew that by now.
Helios
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.11.2016

Mar 1 @ 6:51 PM ET
Hard to say average when you are dressing homegrown picks from the 2nd or later rounds like:

Andersson - 2nd round
Kylington - 2nd round
Mangiapane - 6th round
Gaudreau - 4th round
Brodie - 4th round
Gio - undrafted

- rmull905


Hunk never has any clue what he's talking about. Figured everyone knew that by now.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Mar 1 @ 6:56 PM ET
Since when? They're average at best. It'll be neat though when the entire Slovakian national team is in the Flames organization.
- Hunkulese


Since we built the best forward core in the Western Conference almost entirely through the draft. Since we have four rookies ready to take more responsibility on our team. C’mon Hunk. Sometimes I think you’re just contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Mar 1 @ 7:56 PM ET
Since we built the best forward core in the Western Conference almost entirely through the draft. Since we have four rookies ready to take more responsibility on our team. C’mon Hunk. Sometimes I think you’re just contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
- fry


Agree, our drafting has be good...really good. Being that it takes a few years to evaluate a draft, looking at 2010-2015, Calgary has done very good IMO. They drafted 12 NHLers, 8 of which after the first round. Notable later round picks, Gaudreau (a hart candidate) in the 4th round, Ferland in the 5th round, and Andersson, Kylington in the 2nd. Add those players to the top 10 picks of Monahan, Bennett and Tkachuk, and I think Calgary scouting has done a way above average job. This team isn't first in the west because of BT's astute UFA signings, that's for sure.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Mar 1 @ 8:08 PM ET
Agree, our drafting has be good...really good. Being that it takes a few years to evaluate a draft, looking at 2010-2015, Calgary has done very good IMO. They drafted 12 NHLers, 8 of which after the first round. Notable later round picks, Gaudreau (a hart candidate) in the 4th round, Ferland in the 5th round, and Andersson, Kylington in the 2nd. Add those players to the top 10 picks of Monahan, Bennett and Tkachuk, and I think Calgary scouting has done a way above average job. This team isn't first in the west because of BT's astute UFA signings, that's for sure.
- tincup


No sh!t
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Mar 1 @ 10:12 PM ET
Hockeyfights.com is doing the top 10 Iggy fights on facebook. I feel like a girl feels after watching the Notebook.
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